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Making my own Prinz Eugen figure - part 3 (PICTURE HEAVY)Making my own Prinz Eugen figure - part 3 (PICTURE HEAVY)Diary

For_OthersFor_Others10 dagar sedan
(Before reading this part, if you haven't already, it would be preferable if you read the first two parts of this series (?) to know what I'm making and where we're at!)

Soooo...

It has been quite a while since my last update on this figure.
For this I apologize sincerely, I had the best intentions of updating and working on her quickly, but life got in the way, as it often does, and the third update got delayed and delayed, and then there was no more time to sculpt... and before I knew it it was nearly a year later and I still hadn't accomplished all that I had set out to do at the end of the last part. Still haven't, actually.

But! A lot of progress has been made in little parts, and now I finally feel that I have enough material (and mistakes) to make another article. A lot of the work that has been done was done ages ago though, so my retelling of events may be a little foggy at the start, but I'll do my best to tell you as much as I can!

Now, excuses and explanations aside, last time we left off with this:

https://static.myfigurecollection.net/upload/pictures/2020/01/26/2374352.jpeg

No hair, detached arms, and about 60% dressed. Boy has she come a long way since then!

In the last article I mentioned that one of the next steps would be making some kind of better attachment for the bangs that sat relatively loosely, so that's one of the first things I managed to do, I carved a corner out of her forehead and added a second square hole on top of her head since the shelf itself did not keep the bangs in place.

https://i.ibb.co/Hpz92pM/20200131-214732-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/b738MTv/20200131-214720-1.jpg

If I had consulted more sources before starting on this project, I would have made sure that she had enough headspace to cut a proper shelf and plug like those you see on mass produced figurines with swappable faces, but at this point dealing with past mistakes has become a running theme and I'll be damned if I start this face over a third time.
Then I put a bit of lipbalm on the head (should have used vaseline), put some clay on the inside of the bangs and pressed it into the head, trying to make sure the new clay got smushed all the way into the square hole, and gently pried it off again, resulting in this:

https://i.ibb.co/p4T5X7g/20200131-215817-1.jpg

Very appetizing xD
In the long run this did not turn out to be a good solution due to the shallowness of the pleg and the bangs getting so deformed that the peg barely even fits into the head anymore, but that's a worry for later, for now we continue on with the other side of the dress.

If we take another look at the original art, you'll see that most of this bit is completely obscured by her leg, and there is no indication of how this connects in the back.

https://i.ibb.co/M6zJ5wV/2020-10-25-06-14-24-Prinz-Eugen-Party-png-PNG-Image-1400-1372-pixels.png

As beautiful as this looks in 2D, it is a pain to try and divine the physical logic of, so I decided to just throw on a blob of clay, work out what I could see, and then bullshit my way in the back.

Eventually, after a lot of tweaking and carving and putting on more clay, I ended up with something that looked kinda okay from one angle, but absolutely trash from all others.

https://i.ibb.co/McHRYcK/20200202-180907-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/JR0pRfp/20200202-180859-1.jpg

It looked heavy, the shape was all wrong from the side, it didn't look like fabric at all, it was delicate to work on and I knew that the little bit that went up her leg to blend in with the rest of the dress would break the instant I would try to separate it after baking. So I scrapped it and started over, this time with a single layer of foil as a base for strength and to make it not stick to the leg during the first bake.

https://i.ibb.co/wKSLfks/20200220-204807-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/9GT0nyG/20200220-204814-1.jpg

Somehow I managed to carefully detach it from the leg before baking in order to work more on the details,

https://i.ibb.co/yPyP1q7/20200220-213602-1.jpg

and you can see at the bottom there, that I defined the end of the fabric but the foil extended past that edge. To solve this I just cut away the excess clay with a scalpel and cut the foil with regular scissors, very, very carefully.

When the front part of the skirt looked alright, I shifted focus on the part that touched the already baked folds, putting the whole foil thing back against the leg to make sure it would fit for once.

https://i.ibb.co/stgQSWd/20200220-234323-1.jpg

In the end it really didn't matter because after so many bakes the sculpey started shrinking and shifting anyways, and now there's a gap.

https://i.ibb.co/VTdnWKB/20201025-050244-1.jpg

When this figure gets close to completion and doesn't have to go into the oven anymore, I'll use some kind of putty for garage kits to patch all these awkward bits up, cause fixing it right now would just delay the inevitable and probably break more than it would fix.

After baking the skirt part, I tried taking out the foil so I could fill the inside wth clay to get a smooth finish, but our dear old friend disaster came to say hi :')

https://i.ibb.co/MNBx663/20200229-192007-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/vJ4VXCs/20200229-191956-1.jpg

The tippy top of the skirt part broke off with the foil and for some reason the dangly bit of the back of the skirt broke off too. Not too long later, the little diamond at the top of the back skirt broke off as well. So much for using that back skirt part as a stabilizing stand ^^;

At this point I kind of started losing steam, the materials were not the best, things kept breaking and I still had no clue about how to even start on the hair.

Luckily I had been making the bow details (these being the hair bows and an imagined chest bow) on the side so I could save baking time by baking them with the main figure as things progressed, and I continued working on those for a while.

https://i.ibb.co/846ws32/2020-10-25-07-02-59-Prinz-Eugen-Party-png-PNG-Image-1400-1372-pixels.png

https://i.ibb.co/0r4xwGK/20200202-180914-1.jpg

My basic thought process for the bows was: first make the crosses, bake them, make the bows and press them into the bows to simulate fabric conforming to metal.

This did not turn out well.

Making the crosses small enough was already a chore and a half, and by the fourth iteration they were finally tiny enough to not look ridiculous, but by then they were too thin and broke the instant I tried to even lightly press them onto the bows. I tried to salvage them multiple times but in the end I just gave up and sculpted new crosses on the baked bows. By this time I had also made a second iteration of the chest bow, so that it actually looked like it laid on top of the breasts. The lace detail ended up being a handy place marker, the bow just slots right into place, instead of having to drill a teeny hole for a small wire to keep it where it should be.

https://i.ibb.co/ZhfjsTF/20200301-131712-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/ZMM1yQv/20200301-131631-1.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/ygtgG3F/20200301-131650-1.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/LZYQ4Wm/20200301-131659-1.jpg

I had also started on crafting the other metal details, like the chest emblem and the little diamonds on her sleeves:

https://i.ibb.co/TbhTgC5/2020-10-25-07-02-30-Prinz-Eugen-Party-png-PNG-Image-1400-1372-pixels.png https://i.ibb.co/chV1QWP/2020-10-25-07-02-41-Prinz-Eugen-Party-png-PNG-Image-1400-1372-pixels.png

At first I wanted to try and make the chest emblem out of wood, it would be way sturdier than the sculpey on such a small scale.

https://i.ibb.co/p0PwQjp/20200303-195433-1.jpg

However, my tools and type of wood (a simple popsicle stick) were not nearly fine enough to make it not look clunky and horribly oversized. So back to sculpey!
This time I made sure to keep these as delicate as possible, and split it in three parts that I will glue right before painting, the main part and then the two needle-like things on the bottom.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472538359340859392/769806790061719552/20201025_071626.jpg

For the sleeve diamonds, I tried to first just bake the basic shape and then carve the fine detail into them, since it worked with her dress details so well. As you can probably already guess, these turned out less than favourable ;-;
The beige sculpey is really hard to see small detail on, the translucency just makes every edge blend into each other and on top of that, they also practically shattered the moment I started carving, before I had any pictures.

Another hit to my motivation, along with exams now coming up.

Kind of desperate to make some kind of headway with this project, I tried doing the back hair.

The original plan was to make a triangle of wire that the head could rest on and to build the hair up from there:

https://i.ibb.co/wcxHXXD/Prinz-Eugen-Party-notes-3.png

But at this point I was still reeling from all the broken limbs due to the flimsy wire base and stubbornly decided to use anything but wire.

Although, I quickly realised that just using clay was no option either.

https://i.ibb.co/kXyXp2S/20200303-172634-1.jpg

It would be too much of a hassle and cost too much clay to slowly build up a ramp big and stable enough. Thinking of that last skirt part, I remembered how handy the aluminium foil had been, and promptly started using it for the hair too, not for a second taking a breath to plan anything out.

So I cut some tripled foil in the rough shape of the hair and plopped it on some clay, cut the clay down to size and posed it as I wanted it as best I could.

https://i.ibb.co/CVtqp03/20200303-172625-1.jpg

After baking I noticed that this piece would never stay in place on its own, so in half desperation I drilled a hole in the back of her head and superglued a bit of wire on the hairpiece. At last, the hair could support her on its own!

https://i.ibb.co/X44VtW6/20200327-205309-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/3RdQmw4/20200327-205220-1.jpg

I was vibing, listening to a stream, going on autopilot while fleshing out the hair...
And then I made another one of those really big mistakes. I put texture in the hair.

https://i.ibb.co/w08wMw4/20200328-174127-1.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/QChfcZY/20200501-170142-1.jpg

Before I knew it, the piece was baked and completely textured. However, when I put it back together with the main body and bangs, something felt off. It was too detailed, too realistic. A much needed refresher of how existing figures looked later, it was clear that I had royally fucked up.

https://i.ibb.co/dgM0rLf/4560228206241-figure-prinz-eugen-rig-ver-azur-lane-alt-E.jpg

This was rather discouraging, so much so actually that I took a long long break from this project. The progress had been slow before but now it really slowed to a crawl. Over the course of four months I painstakingly filled in all the texture I had made by mashing new clay in the grooves and smoothing everything out. This was done in small increments, a little bit this week, a saturday there... inbetween school work and commissions, it was slowly getting done, but the motivation was low all throughout.

https://i.ibb.co/4VzG1pc/20200510-210406-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/5GpcNvn/20200510-201958-1.jpg

In the meantime, someone had decided they wanted to pay me for a custom figure, a weird choice for someone who hasn't even finished one but okay, I was willing to take on the challenge for just the price of materials, so that also started taking up a lot of time and clay. So much so that I ran out of the beige sculpey, right in the middle of the first lockdown. With no way to get any new clay in the forseeable future, I bit the bullet and ordered some grey sculpey on amazon, the firmer kind.

When it arrived a couple weeks later, I was mindblown, the grey was so much easier to see little details on! It also held the details easier, but making big organic shapes was a pain, smoothing too. Alas, I went on and finally sculpted the top of the hair, kind of making a loose plan for the pigtails. these little stumpy cilinders were really only to figure out the placement of them though.

https://i.ibb.co/mCXpTWy/20200514-164254-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/j3G08fq/20200514-164250-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/GMdyfrs/20200513-223635-1.jpg

Along with this I decided to make the peg for the hair a little sturdier, I carved out a somewhat square shape out of the neck, around the original pin, coated it in lip balm again and pushed some clay in there, using liquid fimo and pressure to make it stick to the hairpiece.

https://i.ibb.co/gz9hbmQ/20201025-050200-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/ynJ5YTS/20201025-050148-1.jpg

So I got to smoothing and discovered that the original ridges in the hair were still somewhat visible, so I one again did another coat of really thin clay to buff those out.

https://i.ibb.co/tbFQkP3/20200522-233930-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/zGCkLyn/20200522-233935-1.jpg

It looks a lot better from some angles than others-

But now that this tedious task was finally over, I shook off the demotivation and found my passion for this figure again!
Still, I started somewhat safe by reusing the technique for the little lock of hair in front of her face for the double ahoge, filing down the tip of a bit of wire and bending it into shape, this time armed with a teeny tiny watchmaker's drill that was just a smidge smaller than the diameter of the wire, so the wire would kind of pressure-fit in there.

https://i.ibb.co/82y7dd2/20200912-232634-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/0VtHWHM/20200912-232620-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/QNtp6Z2/20200912-232626-1.jpg

After this I wanted to do the sleeves, but with the arms detached that would be a hell of a pain, especially since the joints I had devised at first were less than ideal. So I bit the bullet and just joined them together, cutting a bit of a groove at the joint first and then filling it with more clay. You can easily see where the groove was cut due to the clay colours :D

https://i.ibb.co/8273Kmh/20200912-235927-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/7VB5W5s/20200912-235912-1.jpg

I thickened the ahoge as well, since they were looking a little frail.

https://i.ibb.co/KNG6q5C/20200913-144510-1.jpg

In the end this didn't really work out that well ^^;
While sanding the tiny pieces to redefine the edges and the pointy end, the clay broke and slipped off the wire, even with the use of liquid fimo and sanding the wire a bit to give it grip. So now I'm still just trying to patch it up and handle it as little as possible, especially after baking. Another reminder that maybe sculpey wasn't the best choice for this.

After that it was time for the sleeves! Finally! I had been dreading this point since the start, the free-floating nature of the sleeves was very daunting and the nonsensical design of them wasn't really reassuring either.
But, I had hope, recalling the old sketches I made and looking at some more, newer fanart and a single cosplay, I started roughing out the shape.

https://i.ibb.co/9ch7mD0/20200913-165037-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/SfLh1Nh/20200913-165042-1.jpg

Slowly adding more detail, constantly referring back to the original illustration for the skin, and prepping a little area for the metal diamond shaped clasp(?).

https://i.ibb.co/ynbnxtV/20200913-193111-1.jpg

The diamonds I made out of the beige sculpey earlier were basically unusable, but at this point I had gotten new clay, new tools, and the actual sleeves to compare scale.

https://i.ibb.co/yBPFgBz/20200913-190739-1.jpg

With the grey I could actually see what I was doing and make the detail in the unbaked clay, instead of running the risk of breaking them by carving after baking.

Sadly these new ones were too big still, so I had to make them a third time, this time even smaller, with a thinner rim and sharper angle on the outer bevel.
These were so small my phone wouldn't even focus on them properly, with a standard X-acto for scale.

https://i.ibb.co/BnkZ8D9/20200913-193926-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/R2k8xWM/20200913-194410-1.jpg

But finally, they were okay for scale, I couldn't go much smaller than this or I would probably have to bust out the magnifying glass and buy a whole set of new tools. So I baked them, scultped the hanging tassle part, smushed the diamond on there carefully and sculpted the small metal part above it.

https://i.ibb.co/BqhzLPZ/20200915-232547-1.jpg

The other sleeve was a whole lot trickier though, since this one was not only obscured in the original image, but also a lot more free floating than the left one.

Going along with one of my old sleeve sketches, I decided that the sleeve would be attached to the main body of the dress at the start of the armpit, to the haltertop-like underlayer, and in the back it would simply attach at a random point that seemed alright in line with the other sleeve. I then draped a thin piece of clay over the arm, attaching it as best as I could, very carefully shaping it and cutting out the edge detail. I made sure that the edge was relatively thick so it could hold its shape in the oven, and I gently whittled it down after baking.

https://i.ibb.co/H7sFfbZ/20201025-003144-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/s2ScJj8/20201025-003153-1.jpg
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After that I carefully made another tassle thing and attached the second diamond, repeating the steps from the other sleeve, though this time I had to secure it with super glue since the two connection points were so very small and delicate and the clay wouldn't stick even with liquid fimo to keep it in place.

https://i.ibb.co/1mPPG8y/20201025-020630-1.jpg

So, after a whole lot of time and a fair amount of work, this is where we're at:

https://i.ibb.co/wL7VDZt/20201025-031055-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/bX0JMgJ/20201025-031059-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/QbXszr8/20201025-031920-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/8B92gJ4/20201025-031910-1.jpg

And I also got myself some cool new tools finally! These are going to be a godsend when working on small details, I can already feel it.

https://i.ibb.co/xCXS3qf/20201025-052038-1.jpg

We have now come to the end of the current progress, and the next couple of steps will probably include fixing the bangs, since the gap that formed thanks to shrinkage of the main body is really bothering me and I need to finish them before getting onto the pigtails, and then we'll be pretty much finished I think. After that it's mostly just fixing little areas and breaks, doing the chest emblem and the chain details, some tassels and things, and the transparent parts. For that I actually have a solution now! I found this packaging plastic that is thick enough to keep its shape but malleable enough to be coaxed into looking like fabric!

https://i.ibb.co/cDY1B4S/20201108-185051-1.jpg

I can dye this with fabric dye to reach the desired tone and opacity as well! For a more milky effect I may try spraying the pieces with a matte varnish at the end, right before glueing them in.



Well then, even though I'm really happy with the current progress and have a much better idea of where this project is heading now, I won't make any more promises of swift updates. Since the last update I have started the second year of university, which turns out to be a lot more work than the first one, I have moved to a dorm without oven and am only at the place where my project is at one weekend out of two.
Progress is bound to be slow this time around, I'm very sorry.

Even so, I hope you've enjoyed this long, long, long overdue update and progress report on our beloved Eugen, and I will see you next time, hopefully not a year from now!

(If you have any questions or if things aren't clear, feel free to ask them in the comments, I'll keep a close eye on them for the next few days <3)
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For_Others3 dagar sedan#87420034Ooh I know that channel! and I also stole borrowed his technique for the third face I ever made, but that was for a different figure that will never be finished haha :P
The face looked way better already though, that guy really is a good source for sculpey anime figure inspiration!
haha yeah he sure improved in just 3 years like wow he must do it everyday though o_o
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Rikoei8 dagar sedan#87138555Really? I thought you were a professional haha guessed wrong but yeah faces are really tricky did it a few years ago and failed miserably
I saw a guy do a video on it and he used a block of wood and I thought it was a smart idea then for the hair he used a sculpting tool to hold the head up so it wouldn’t get smushed
I think I will use that way of doing it :) but keep trying I bet you can pull it off the body looks great so far
Ooh I know that channel! and I also stole borrowed his technique for the third face I ever made, but that was for a different figure that will never be finished haha :P
The face looked way better already though, that guy really is a good source for sculpey anime figure inspiration!
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For_Others8 dagar sedan#87138232Your criticism on the face is very warranted! It was the second face I ever sculpted, let alone in an anime style, in a less than optimal material with less than optimal tools and barely any skill to overcome the gap, so yeah, it's kinda bad xD I'll be redoing it sooner rather than later :p
If you have experience drawing, learning to sculpt is not that big a leap! You already know how to draw things, have mental models of them, so it's only a little more imagination and time to bring them into the third dimension.
I really advise you to look up some tutorials specific to the material you want to use though, they can be hella handy. Otherwise, the best of luck with your foray into sculpting!
By the way this is only my second sculpture ever so I'm nothing like a pro, there are a couple people on here who know a LOT more about this stuff than I do, if you look up 'custom figure' in the articles tab you'll find some great stuff!

Really? I thought you were a professional haha guessed wrong but yeah faces are really tricky did it a few years ago and failed miserably
I saw a guy do a video on it and he used a block of wood and I thought it was a smart idea then for the hair he used a sculpting tool to hold the head up so it wouldn’t get smushed
I think I will use that way of doing it :) but keep trying I bet you can pull it off the body looks great so far
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Rikoei9 dagar sedan#87089636I plan to get into sculpting this year due to covid to do something artistic
And different as I mainly draw....
But awesome figure so far however the face seems a bit off....it may just be in the drafting stage so I won’t poke at it too much but you seem like a professional so I won’t say much haha much more professional then what I can do I plan to try it out so this is very helpful :) thanks
Your criticism on the face is very warranted! It was the second face I ever sculpted, let alone in an anime style, in a less than optimal material with less than optimal tools and barely any skill to overcome the gap, so yeah, it's kinda bad xD I'll be redoing it sooner rather than later :p
If you have experience drawing, learning to sculpt is not that big a leap! You already know how to draw things, have mental models of them, so it's only a little more imagination and time to bring them into the third dimension.
I really advise you to look up some tutorials specific to the material you want to use though, they can be hella handy. Otherwise, the best of luck with your foray into sculpting!

By the way this is only my second sculpture ever so I'm nothing like a pro, there are a couple people on here who know a LOT more about this stuff than I do, if you look up 'custom figure' in the articles tab you'll find some great stuff!
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I plan to get into sculpting this year due to covid to do something artistic
And different as I mainly draw....
But awesome figure so far however the face seems a bit off....it may just be in the drafting stage so I won’t poke at it too much but you seem like a professional so I won’t say much haha much more professional then what I can do I plan to try it out so this is very helpful :) thanks
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curious_mando9 dagar sedan#87089473wish i had as much feedback for my 3d modelsYou can try writing about them here or even over on reddit, asking for advice and feedback? I myself am sadly not experienced in 3d modeling so I wouldn't be able to give concrete advice, but if you ever want some general feedback, feel free to pm me!
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shindig10 dagar sedan#87021412This is looking amazing so far! Great jobThank you! I'll keep working on her dilligently :p
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wish i had as much feedback for my 3d models
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This is looking amazing so far! Great job
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Bah-Roo10 dagar sedan#87021313This is looking really awesome, well done!! I think you’ve sketched her eyes a bit too high up on her face, though.Yeah, I'm planning to redo the face at this point, so that will be fixed when I get to it ^^;plasticizer10 dagar sedan#87021300Don't know what your oven maker is, but usually when clay burns, it's either because it's too close to or in direct line-of-sight to the heating coils (as well as being in the oven for too long). I also read from a forum that for especially burnable areas, covering the specific part with foil is a good way to avoid getting too much heat. Sculpey is definitely versatile (and comparatively cheap) so it's worth investing time in making it work.The reason why the clay burned is that I accidentally put the temperature way too high, otherwise I haven't had any issues, not with thin parts, not with things close to the top or anything, the only problem was myself :'D
For the final bake I'll try wrapping the more fragile bits in foil though, since that will be a longer one and I don't want to chance it burning right at the end.
Thank you for the useful information once again!
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