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Off-brand vs Genuine figures, a small comparison.Whats your takeOff-brand vs Genuine figures, a small comparison.Whats your takeDiary

BlueRainBlueRain1 år sedan
OK guys, Robonote's ( now deleted ) thread inspired me to open this one. And as you can see,in this thread I have posted some really good prepainted GKs.

tharglet1 år sedan#61757806So some rightsholders are attempting to defend their licence against these statues, but due to China, it is difficult.I couldn't care less about these fat license holders. To start off, I will say this, under the guise of being "genuine" and "licensed", these companies are ripping off fans with their over priced substandard figures while these so called off-brand figure sculptors are working their asses off to make figures that actually resemble the characters and for what we get in the package , the quality and quantity well justifies the price. Very few companies provide the bang for the buck along with a character that represents it's virtual counterpart, like ITEM #549861

The figures really capture the aura of the character they represent.But be aware that some are NSFW.

Below, I have posted photos of licensed vs off-brand figures. You decide who deserves our hard earned money.

On the LEFT are Genuine Figures and on the RIGHT are Unlicensed Figures

BOA HANCOCK

Visual atrocity, especially the face.
View spoilerHide spoilerhttps://static.myfigurecollection.net/image/Rikudou1477273933.jpeg-----------------------------------And the beautyView spoilerHide spoilerhttps://66.media.tumblr.com/b9440c9900e12fe42b0845b6bf9ca3ab/tumblr_pt7177iXRP1yq49xmo3_1280.jpghttps://66.media.tumblr.com/e850c579b609d3ea79b37a1f433a9f01/tumblr_pt71h1zXe41yq49xmo4_1280.jpghttps://66.media.tumblr.com/efaa6995380f089d77598196ff7d94c3/tumblr_pt7177iXRP1yq49xmo2_1280.jpghttps://66.media.tumblr.com/b494e446b395c7f3c8febd0965558012/tumblr_pt7177iXRP1yq49xmo1_1280.jpg

Wannabe View spoilerHide spoilerhttps://static.myfigurecollection.net/image/joeeye1555769871.jpeghttps://static.myfigurecollection.net/pics/figure/large/703537.jpg ----------------------------------- And the EmpressView spoilerHide spoilerhttps://66.media.tumblr.com/bb7bcbe82ba76ae3fe0d6d1a76e693c9/tumblr_pt71f28WLB1yq49xmo5_1280.jpghttps://66.media.tumblr.com/4b669c3aca8891665d14cb81c0ac5f50/tumblr_pt71f28WLB1yq49xmo6_640.jpghttps://66.media.tumblr.com/99a5f6114311bcad2ce49a1e760ab05f/tumblr_pt71f28WLB1yq49xmo2_640.jpg More of Hancock-> View spoilerHide spoilerhttps://66.media.tumblr.com/6367e3bfbafe7c9399b0eb33b5e7eaef/tumblr_pt7177iXRP1yq49xmo8_1280.jpghttps://66.media.tumblr.com/bff04ab6a63cf8245608a9f37fb1d091/tumblr_pt7177iXRP1yq49xmo9_1280.jpghttps://66.media.tumblr.com/9837e1914230e42b864f2f9d591a28dd/tumblr_pt71jeCoWJ1yq49xmo6_1280.jpghttps://66.media.tumblr.com/272dc0a80fedb5f2bfc0779e579c83e0/tumblr_pt7177iXRP1yq49xmo6_1280.jpg https://66.media.tumblr.com/660e093ae606e5df8b1e90770b8af433/tumblr_pt71h1zXe41yq49xmo7_1280.jpghttps://66.media.tumblr.com/20f7338cc85227fd84ba15ef45e4f145/tumblr_pt71jeCoWJ1yq49xmo1_500.jpghttps://66.media.tumblr.com/acd164a4f27608a82eb4e59873b3fe12/tumblr_pt71jeCoWJ1yq49xmo3_500.jpghttps://66.media.tumblr.com/52c258987dd681d12c554c5823f10906/tumblr_pt71jeCoWJ1yq49xmo4_500.jpghttps://66.media.tumblr.com/d171ebe8abe51a38174d99a3d95d5bdd/tumblr_pt71h1zXe41yq49xmo6_1280.jpg

TSUNADE

Who? View spoilerHide spoilerhttps://static.myfigurecollection.net/image/Siona1539213942.jpeghttps://static.myfigurecollection.net/image/joeeye1515122519.jpeg ----------------------------------- The real Godaime Hokage View spoilerHide spoilerhttps://66.media.tumblr.com/9b09373b9b8a56380f76da76409fdae4/tumblr_pt71f28WLB1yq49xmo7_1280.jpg https://66.media.tumblr.com/cf54d292dc0b4ae2b4557f64c2fe1466/tumblr_pt71f28WLB1yq49xmo4_1280.jpg https://66.media.tumblr.com/1460bfd8b15be6a5bf1dfc69e8c0bf4a/tumblr_pt71jeCoWJ1yq49xmo2_500.jpg https://66.media.tumblr.com/56aa746522067fd3e29a6fa3deb4feb3/tumblr_pt71jeCoWJ1yq49xmo7_1280.jpg https://66.media.tumblr.com/5a270667ba699a48834519b731e745fb/tumblr_pt71h1zXe41yq49xmo2_1280.jpg


Copies a GK, but still fails View spoilerHide spoilerhttps://static.myfigurecollection.net/image/Siona1559320530.jpeg ----------------------------------- The original View spoilerHide spoilerhttps://66.media.tumblr.com/9f35e13644e7921bc0564ed52e917c66/tumblr_pt71f28WLB1yq49xmo7_r1_1280.jpghttps://66.media.tumblr.com/961154ab77aa98ec745ce298f4cd48f3/tumblr_pt71jeCoWJ1yq49xmo9_540.jpghttps://66.media.tumblr.com/dff8c36acd4ff6f951b16f4fa4c50007/tumblr_pt71jeCoWJ1yq49xmo5_1280.jpg

That was some comparison. Now below are more of these unlicensed figures, Carrot/Sulong, Robin, Shirahoshi etc. Some real beauties.

REIJU
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CARROT

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NICO ROBIN

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*The last 3 imaged were ripped from Pandaman
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NAMI

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SHIRAHOSHI

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This one is a real beauty.
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You're comparing $80-$150 mass produced figures to $250-$500 small batch figures?

Nice touch putting the licensed ones in red with insulting descriptions and the unlicensed ones in green with praising descriptions, lol.

I agree figures are getting a bit too pricey in comparison to they're quality, though. Buy an expensive, super nice unliscened figure when they pop up if you want, but support the anime industry where you can so you can continue to even have characters to complain about.
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Act1 år sedan#61866327They say that because they want to trick people searching for kits. Because people who steal don't generally have qualms about being misleading in other ways. As someone who often buys kits, it's incredibly annoying to constantly catch bootleg statues in my searches.
There's a ton of info out there about kitbuilding. A quick Google is all it takes to clear this up. Or a search in MFC's blog history.
The situation is so bad you have bootlegs seeking for full price in YAHOO! Japan now. Some will say it's the Chinese version while others will straight up lie.

Y! JA is still decent but I stick to official stores now.
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It is importqnt to note that doujin figures are technically not allowed. IP holders turn a blind eye since they're small scale.

Doujin groups also respect the IP and the vast majority stop selling a character if the IP holder requests.

Far cry from your unofficial/bootleg Chinese figures, manufacturers WISH they respected IPs. The comparison is also a bit misleading because the vast majority of Chinese black market products are inferior to the Japanese goods, not the other way around.

There was a time when Japanese goods were awful and Chinese was decent, but that's a story for your grandparents to tell you :P
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BlueRain1 år sedan#61863059@ Otaku, I am not sure if the doujin rules apply to figures.The Japanese government has zero tolerance for bootlegs.Not sure if these qualify as bootlegs, since the design could be original, I dont know.
DarkFroggy and ACT have explained that part, partially. But I have seen some of these "GK" or "resin" or "resinGK" or whatever you call them, available on Amazon JP as well as Yahoo JP.


IP copyright laws absolutely apply to characters and character designs. See Mickey Mouse as the most world famous example.

Just because someone else drew the picture doesn't mean that the original artist who created the character suddenly looses all their rights over their work.

Both artists have rights to the work, but the extent to which they can profit off of it differs.

Parody works are a totally different story, but for most intents and purposes doujinshi works do not fall under that category.
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BlueRain1 år sedan#61863059the sites said that they were prepainted resin GKs, not unpainted garage kits.

They say that because they want to trick people searching for kits. Because people who steal don't generally have qualms about being misleading in other ways. As someone who often buys kits, it's incredibly annoying to constantly catch bootleg statues in my searches.

There's a ton of info out there about kitbuilding. A quick Google is all it takes to clear this up. Or a search in MFC's blog history.
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Act1 år sedan#61793786This is tangential, but you seem to be confusing garage/resin kits with resin statues. First-party, authentic kits actually are usually licensed and sold with the blessing of the IP c......d Hong Kong to get around copyright laws).
There are also such thing as licensed resin statues by companies like F4F if you prefer this style but don't like stealing.


Heavenly_Otaku1 år sedan#61794330Thanks for making this article.
Many doujins seem to exempted from copyright stuff of a character.


I was wary of opening this thread for the above reasons you guys mentioned. ACT has confused me even more regarding these figures. I am just a noob figure collector after all, I dont understand the lingo,, because the sites said that they were prepainted resin GKs, not unpainted garage kits. Some elucidation would be nice.
@ Otaku, I am not sure if the doujin rules apply to figures.The Japanese government has zero tolerance for bootlegs.Not sure if these qualify as bootlegs, since the design could be original, I dont know.
DarkFroggy and ACT have explained that part, partially. But I have seen some of these "GK" or "resin" or "resinGK" or whatever you call them, available on Amazon JP as well as Yahoo JP.
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darkfroggy1 år sedan#61794218The figure market is actually shrinking, with many manufacturers closing up shop. Griffon is one recent victim. Kotobukiya has posted record losses not seen in years.
So no, figure makers are not "profiting handsomely" from .....

GSC and Kotobukiya are GOOD companies. Griffon probably dug it's own grave, their figures mostly never looked like the characters they were trying to depict. Many on MFC will vouch for that. No, I am not saying that they are "profiting". NO, a lot has changed within past 5 years, now the companies no longer "love" their characters, they just see them as a money spinner. Make something and pass it off as Tsunade, people will buy. It's kind of rude that I am singling out MH ( though they are cheap ) while there are other bigger guilty ones. But I couldnt find enough data to compare them. My bad.
EDIT: Also thanks for the detailed explanation.

Heliodora1 år sedan#61794215Looking at these I feel cheated by the figures MH releases lol
Although, I'm sure most of these would be out of the price range of regular collectors

I know how you feel. The PVC Hancock and Tsunade, I had an eye on them expecting something cool, but then MH screwed up. They just cannot get the face right.

Reinier1 år sedan#61794197Are those unlicensed figures you posted actually pre-painted figures or are they unpainted garage kits?
Prepainted and expensive. But that isnt why made this thread. It was for the level of quality and detail.
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Thanks for making this article.
Many doujins seem to exempted from copyright stuff of a character.
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The figure market is actually shrinking, with many manufacturers closing up shop. Griffon is one recent victim. Kotobukiya has posted record losses not seen in years.

So no, figure makers are not "profiting handsomely" from fans if many are in literal danger of shutting down. If the market was really "that easy" to profit from, you'd see a lot of new domestic competitors entering the mix, instead we have seen a decline of Japanese makers. The only expansion I've seen are from Chinese companies, but that's sort of expected since the taxes, labor laws, and quality are generally lower than the Japanese standard. You can kinda see that the Chinese-licenced Fate figures are nowhere near as nice as the Alter equivalents.

The problem is that your bootleg companies do NOT have to pay licence fees nor do they need to follow labor demands that an established companies need to follow. Bootleg companies are awful because they profit from someone elses HARD WORK. How would you like it if you spent years establishing a wonderful series, and get no compensation for it because of people stealing your IP?

The issue is not whether bootlegs are AWESOMESAUCE or not; companies like GSC pay royalties and usage rights to the owner of the IP. That's how we get shiny new anime and manga.

FYI, the best quality figures are definitely the doujin/custom-made figures. It turns out when you make things in small batches, often hand-painted, the quality goes up exponentially! Parent companies turn a blind eye to doujin market because it's small and there's an implied trust that the doujin maker won't mass-produce and hurt sales. Because of such as small production, the quality can be really high. It's also important to differentiate between Japanese "doujin" goods and Chinese bootlegs. The former is rare and often custom-ordered, the latter is mass-produced and almost always modeled after an official product. The latter case also actively steals sales from the official product (via people trying to look for "cheap figures"), whereas the former is simply a new product (and the price range is often way higher than the official product, mostly rendering them in a different niche).

It is important to note that official products have always historically been "middling quality" in Japan, that's why doujin goods can often command a much higher price esp. if it's from a famous doujin maker.
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Heliodora Collector of the Boiis
Looking at these I feel cheated by the figures MH releases lol
Although, I'm sure most of these would be out of the price range of regular collectors
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